The Economist Group

And then after I left teaching, worked for them for a while.

Then got an opportunity to come back to London for a little while, which I worked for a company within the Economist Group.

Did that for about 18 months and then came back to Egypt and did another two years in the same institute.

Okay.

I'd get coffee for the editorial folks when they needed it.

I'd raise my hand if we got into joint ventures with companies like The Economist Group to go over to London to do whatever job was needed.

And that's where I started to see corporate governance from a different vantage point because it was post-com burst, bubble burst.

Sarbanes-Loxley was being stood up after Enron and WorldCom and some of the other big corporate accounting scandals.

I was minister of finance.

So my minor role in this was that David called me and said, we were looking for a deputy governor of the Bank of Canada, and we'd run ads for it, including in The Economist.

And David called and said, this guy applied from Goldman Sachs in London, and he looks pretty good.

Will you interview him? And I think I said, well, is he a Canadian? Because the statute requires that governors and deputy governors be Canadian.

Before Ling and Learn, I was doing complete- something completely different, working for a c- corporate as well.

So when I had my daughter, before I was working at The Economist Group, and I was doing, um, online and advertising sales.

Wow.

So I was traveling quite a lot, right? But when Yuna was born, my, my child, when she was born, I was like, "My goodness, I don't think I'll be able to go back to my job," you know? I don't think I will-

Okay.

So this is from, I think, Goldman and, um, uh, also The Economist.

I think the two curves, red is from The Economist and blue is from...

Or the other way around.

So blue is The Economist and red is Goldman.

And these are annual AI revenues Required to return a modest, say, ten percent cap-- uh, return on CapEx that's already been expended or, or to a particular point in time.

And you can see already by twenty twenty-seven, twenty twenty-eight, you're talking about revenues that have to be in the trillions of dollars.