Sonzogno

Um, and with La Rondine, that was actually a really fascinating experience because La Rondine was the only opera Puccini wrote that wasn't published by Casa Ricordi.

Um, it was published by Casa Sonzogno, the big publishing rival-

The rival.

Exactly

Okay.

And Ricordi could not tolerate that.

Um, but in this case, what it meant practically was that normally all of Puccini's manuscripts are located in the Ricordi archive, but in this case, La Rondine was, was le- given to Sonzogno, and it was simply disappeared for decades and decades.

Even sort of in the 1930s, you can see there was a legal case that struck up between-