Relate

No, it, it wasn't in an N- NHS setting.

I, for a period of three years, was, uh, national director of clinical practice and clinical supervision for Relate, which used to be the Marriage Guidance Council, um, but, uh, uh, is now called Relate and deals with all manner of relationship issues, not just divorce, uh, which it started out with.

And my, my job, I, I, I'd got regional managers all over the place, um, and there are s- psychotherapists and sex therapists and all manner of, uh, psychological practitioners.

And some of the programs, some of the schools of psychological thinking that our practitioners ...