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I would just bring this one because it's what I got.

Um, being on a Zodiac, you know, ideally you want like one of those Ortlieb bags or whatever that's super waterproof.

I just bring this one or I've got a like super waterproof Osprey that I just throw my cameras into.

It's fine, whatever.

It's so light.

And, you know, it doesn't have all the padding and all the bells and whistles, but it has what I need to be fast, light, and get the job done.

And then, of course, like the Ortlieb that you mentioned.

Want a whistle, guys? No.

And then the two smaller panniers that have usually got things like sleeping bags and the carry mat in them, and are pretty light, they're on the back.

We have a long gray Ortlieb pannier that goes lengthwise on the pannier rack, and that holds our tent, a little stove, and a few other bits and pieces like that.

And then there's a, a day bag that goes on top of that with our maybe coats or lunch or anything else like that in it.

But in answer to your question about can we not put anything in the middle, I haven't yet found bags that actually fit in the middle and will...