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And Maersk wasn't involved yet in containers or in fruit at all.

SAF Marine was, DAL was part of SAF Marine, P&O Ned Lloyd.

They all said we'll only overflow into 12 meters if we run out of six meters, which never

happened.

Jeremy began his maritime career at sea as a navigating officer before moving into shore-based management, building more than three decades of experience in the global container shipping industry.

During that time, Jeremy held senior leadership positions with P&O Ned Lloyd, Meltline, and NYK Line, working across Europe, North America, and Asia.

In 2017, he was appointed to lead the creation of Ocean Network Express, one, the joint venture established by K-Line, MOL, and NYCade.

Under his leadership, ONE commenced operations in April 2018 and has since grown into one of the world's leading container liner shipping companies.

So I think the whole M&A side then kicked in.

And personally, I've been involved with three mergers and acquisitions during my career.

The first one was P&O Containers and P&O Ned Lloyd coming together as a 50-50 merger.

And that was a very interesting development and to be part of that as an executive or young executive in the team.