National Pan-Hellenic Council

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[laughs] And my Sorors.

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And I think if we're talking about some of these issues, the housing structures that have allowed groups that have had this status to maintain facilities where they can host large social gatherings and dictate the social goals around campus, I think is probably the most problematic aspect of these organizations today.

Groups that are unhoused, I mean, Terry brought up your experience with, I think, an NPHC organization and it being kicked off campus for hazing.

I mean, it doesn't get rid of the problematic behavior in all organizations, but these off-campus houses where organizations largely composed of white men can dictate the social environment on campus is troubling and concerning.

And my quick follow-up to you, Adam, and Lisa, I'd love to get you to chime in quickly, but are there other structural things that you think make it easier for the worst outcomes to occur? Because if most of the fraternities and sororities are doing the right thing, are there structures like a house or certain things that make it easier for the bad actors to sort of flourish or to have bad things happen? Your thoughts?

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Dr. Joaquin E. Wallace, my brother, Nupe, Kappa Alpha Psi, Divine 9.

Man, this is outstanding, man.

Outstanding.

Good morning, and thank you for this engaging conversation.

And so I'm curious, you're saying, uh, that you believe that fraternities and possibly sororities should be banned on all college campuses, but I'm wondering if you've done any research on Black fraternities and sororities, the Divine Nine, because the Divine Nine does such great work on and off of college campuses.

Is your blanket statement scooping them into the fold as well?

So that is a really difficult issue, and I do think there are such important networks, and particularly Black sorority sisters supporting each other is a tremendous social good.

My sense is that we need, in these conversations, to find ways of having alternate ways of supporting those valuable social structures and networking opportunities, and opportunities, too, to combat systemic forms of oppression in ways that are collective and so positive, but I do not think that the Greek life system as a whole does more good than harm, and so I do think that a movement to abolish it is appropriate at this time.

So I don't-- So I guess my question again is, are you familiar with the Divine Nine, and do you know what they do? Because I think that just given your response, it says to me that you don't know anything about the Divine Nine, and you don't know the greater good that they do in and outside of the community.

Because I think that if you knew, for instance, I'm a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated.

What Deltas do for the community far surpasses what you are describing for maybe possibly it's the white fraternities and the white, white sororities.

Hello.Hi, good morning, and thank you for this engaging conversation.

And so I'm curious, you're saying, uh, that you believe that fraternities and possibly sororities should be banned on all college campuses, but I'm wondering if you've done any research on Black fraternities and sororities, the Divine Nine, because the Divine Nine does such great work on and off of college campuses.

Is your blanket statement scooping them into the fold as well?

So that is a really difficult issue, and I do think there are such important networks, and particularly Black sorority sisters supporting each other is a tremendous social good.

My sense is that we need, in these conversations, to find ways of having alternate ways of supporting those valuable social structures and networking opportunities, and opportunities, too, to combat systemic forms of oppression in ways that are collective and so positive.

But I do not think that the Greek life system as a whole does more good than harm, and so I do think that a movement to abolish it is appropriate at this time.

So I don't-- so I guess my question again is, are you familiar with the Divine Nine, and do you know what they do? Because I think that just given your response, it says to me that you don't know anything about the Divine Nine, and you don't know the greater good that they do in and outside of the community.

Because I think that if you knew, for instance, I'm a member of Delta Sigma Theta Sorority Incorporated.