La Brea Bakery

Is the bread decent? Yeah, probably it's decent, but you're losing, I think, something essential in that process.

I saw, too, early on, even before I wrote this book, I had done a story on La Brea Bakery-

Mm-hmm

... which you can now find in supermarkets, and it was started by Nancy Silverton, which she wrote a bread book that was highly influential to me.

I actually don't know the answer to that.

But La Brea Bakery was connected to it.

So I started there.

And that was another, you know, right right in on in line with everything I had done in the New York City restaurants and had.