Hydra Head Records

Okay.

And number 30 is Keelhaul, Triumphant Return to Obscurity, Hydra Head.

Do you do Keelhaul, Ryan?

I know Keelhaul.

I have them all sitting here.

Number four, Conte.

Clean hands go foul on Hydra Head.

Number three, Richard Young's Under Stellar Stream.

Number eight is K.O.

Dot, Blue, Lambeson Sea, Downward, Hydra Head.

Lots of stuff on Hydra Head on this list.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, they, it's too bad.

Uh, it's so hard to get those Hydra Head albums

these

Like, they were bleaker and, and, and starker, whereas this is an album, I think, that, uh, the, the post-rock obsessives, like people who mainly listen to Mogwai and Explosions in the Sky and stuff, they tend to love and obsess over Cult of Luna as much as, like, the sludge metalheads do, which is maybe who Neurosis more belong to.

Um, you get the, the intro of "March into the Heartbeats," which has this particular mix of, like, guitar effects and amp drones and gentle keys and drawn-out whispered mumbled vocals and stuff, and it's way closer in tone to, you know, like Mogwai than it is the, you know, Hydra Head or, like, Relapse stuff that was going on.

It's a sound that just, like, reeks of early 2000s internet message boards, [laughs] you know what I mean? But a really loving sense.

Um, and then you reach "Finland," which is, uh, one of Cult of Luna's probably bigger songs.

Uh, you might know him from his many projects like Cave In or Mutoid Man or Old Man Gloom.

Uh, but we really get into kind of, you know, where he was in high school and, and his group of friends and what they were creating and how elements of that continue on to this day, um, in the community that he's found, whether it's working with independent labels like Hydra Head, uh, or doing a major label release, uh, like they did back in 2003 with Antenna.

Um, but yeah, we dig into it.

We're excited to, uh, have a good chat, and, uh, appreciate you being here, so thank you.

when it, you know, of course, like corresponding and, and, and having info from you, you know, in '97.

Yeah.

But it was probably right around, uh, when you were on Hydra Head and, and doing stuff, um-

Mm-hmm

I know it was hard for Caleb to kind of like ramp up to want to do stuff, knowing that like the end result would be like, okay, if we follow through now, we got to figure out who we're recording with and who's going to put this record out.

Because at that point, Hydra head was pretty much dissolved.

You know, we're talking 2017, like late 2017.

Um, And I know he just kind of struggled with that whole thing because he was very rooted in family life and I don't know, not really wanting to be on the road as much.

So I don't know.

That was an interesting moment.

Kind of like one of those unsaid connections that just happens, you know, when you're working with your buddies on music, you know? But yeah, I think finishing the record, like, well, first of all, when Aaron was on board to do another Hydra head release, that was huge because it was like, okay, well, That's added reassurance that what we're doing is OK and it's right and he's supportive of it.

So and then it became like, well, how can we help the family? And so we decided that we were going to basically put half the proceeds of that record to the Schofield family and I think the two things combined there, like the Hydra head element and the contribution to the family element, just gave the whole thing a sense of meaning and purpose that we'd never experienced before.