Hell Pizza

It'll be like, when I talk about the different kinds of puppetry that I do, if I say, oh, have you seen Minecraft? Then I'll explain, oh, well, you know, I did the on-set stuff that was replaced by a digital character.

If I talk about Hell Pizza, I say, have you seen... and they go, yeah, I go, well, you know, I designed and built that.

You know, it's things like that.

If I've got something that they can actually...

In today's conversation, we cover it all.

Charles walks us through his early years as a delivery driver at the tender age of 15 at Hell Pizza to his time couch surfing and then back in New Zealand opening the iconic Ceremony Cafe in Grafton.

His next move, which wasn't such a smart one in hindsight, but ultimately the move that led him to open Williams Eatery in Wynyard Quarter with his brother Patrick.

And from there, the bowler story unfolds.

And, yeah, it was just a good time, a very social time.

Yeah.

With my best mates, we all applied for a job as drivers at Hell Pizza in Newland.

Freshly minted restricted licenses, I'm imagining.

Sushi.

Hell's Pizza.

I feel like this is your

classic Kiwi, like... neighborhood set of shops

He said he'd worked in a kitchen in New Zealand.

He had worked for Hell Pizza-

[laughs]

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