Harriet Lerner
American psychologistwww.harrietlerner.com
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Nov 4, 2026
Episode 389: Whose Feeling is This?
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23:43Jackie PackHOST
And it's also true that an adaptation that once protected you can in a safer season keep you from seeing your partner as he actually is right now both of those are true at the same time there's one more piece that i think is really hopeful even though it doesn't feel that way from the inside for years this wife in this story was living with a man that she couldn't read now he's expressing emotion and that's new It's unfamiliar data, and unfamiliar can register in the body as unsafe, even when it's actually progress, even when it's something we've asked them to do.
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24:28Jackie PackHOST
Harriet Lerner wrote about what she called change-back reactions.
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24:33Jackie PackHOST
When one person in a relationship starts to change, the system pushes back to restore the old balance.
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24:41Jackie PackHOST
Not because anyone wants the old pain, but because the old pattern was predictable and predictable feels safe even when it isn't good.
Family Estrangement, Part Two: Understanding Family Dynamics
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39:29David St. ArnaultHOST
Like that is family systems.
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39:31David St. ArnaultHOST
theory right but there are times where the system reorganizes itself without parts of it right and so this is estrangement and well i was just going to mention you know people that are listening to this and interested in this i was re-listening to uh Harriet Lerner's The Dance of Connection.
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39:50David St. ArnaultHOST
I love her Dance of Anger.
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39:51David St. ArnaultHOST
I've mentioned that before, but the book Dance of Connection, it's a short book.
What’s Meaningful in This Media Landscape? (Monthly Solo)
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15:18Elise LoehnenHOST
And again, this is also a function of the fact that I'm sure you guys have heard of this concept.
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15:23Elise LoehnenHOST
I think it originated with Harriet Lerner and Brene Brown popularized it.
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15:28Elise LoehnenHOST
But this idea of over-functioning and under-functioning, right? I'm an over-functioner.
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15:32Elise LoehnenHOST
I love a crisis.
You Don’t Have to Forgive to Heal: Anger, Codependency, and the Grief Underneath
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7:10Vanessa BennettHOST
Instead of pathologizing the refusal to forgive, what if instead we asked, what is it protecting? All right.
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7:19Vanessa BennettHOST
Harriet Lerner, I've mentioned her a lot.
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7:21Vanessa BennettHOST
You know, anger.
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7:22Vanessa BennettHOST
She's written extensively about anger and clearly about anger.
Rewriting Unspoken Contracts
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15:37Sheryl PaulHOST
If they're the over-functioner, under-functioner, all of these patterns that we enter into that serve different parts of us, And then we realize they're not serving anymore.
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15:51Sheryl PaulHOST
One of the best books, and it's such an early book, and I don't know if it still makes the rounds, but it's called It's the Dance of Anger, Harriet Lerner.
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15:58Victoria RussellHOST
Yes, I read that years ago and I found it so interesting and really helpful.
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16:04Sheryl PaulHOST
Really helpful to name these patterns, especially around over-functioning and under-functioning and how anger is often the messenger that's saying, There's a contract here that is not working.
6 MINS LATER
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21:54Victoria RussellHOST
I agree.
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21:54Victoria RussellHOST
As opposed to making the agreements explicit to yourself, looking at the landscape of this relationship and deciding… how you want to shift your behavior.
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22:07Victoria RussellHOST
And that's part of the Harriet Lerner book about the dance of anger, right? Is the idea that when you, if you're in a dance with a partner, you're holding hands, dancing through life, if you shift your move, the other person has to shift too.
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22:23Victoria RussellHOST
It might not be how you want them to or what you want, but some change will occur.
Boundaries? In this Economy?
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8:48Krispin MayfieldHOST
Right.
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8:50Krispin MayfieldHOST
And also, some of the good stuff in here is that they steal from The Dance of Anger by Harriet Lerner, which is a pretty good book about boundaries that came out 10 years earlier, more of a feminist psychologist.
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9:06Krispin MayfieldHOST
What do
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9:07DL MayfieldHOST
you mean they stole?
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9:08Krispin MayfieldHOST
Like, basically, they talk about counter moves, for example.
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9:11Krispin MayfieldHOST
Harriet Lerner, I think, introduced that concept of counter moves.
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9:15DL MayfieldHOST
Do they credit her?
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9:16Krispin MayfieldHOST
Nope.
The Grief Hierarchy: Losing Yourself in a Physician Marriage
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5:02Kendra HarveyHOST
For this discussion, I want to bring in a book that has meant a lot to me.
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5:06Kendra HarveyHOST
It is Harriet Lerner's The Dance of Anger, specifically the first few chapters where she talks about relationship systems and what happens when someone inside the system decides to change.
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5:19Kendra HarveyHOST
Her premise is this, every relationship develops a pattern, a dance, if you will, and both people learn their steps.
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5:27Kendra HarveyHOST
They get comfortable with the rhythm, and over time, that rhythm becomes what feels normal and what feels safe.
Why I Love Resentment: Silent Agreements, Fear, and Doing Your Own Work
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9:40Vanessa BennettHOST
And then on the other under-functioner side, so I'll use that dynamic, you know, that pattern as the example here.
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9:44Vanessa BennettHOST
On the under-functioner side, the question is, you know, will I still be loved if I'm not the one who needs help? Like, is anybody gonna care? Is anybody gonna take care of me, right? Who am I in this relationship if I stop playing my part? Harriet Lerner, who I love, um, she's amazing, and she wrote a very important book.
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10:04Vanessa BennettHOST
If y'all haven't read it yet, I always recommend it to pretty much everybody, The Dance of Anger.
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10:09Vanessa BennettHOST
So in Harriet Lerner's book, in The Dance of Anger, she described the over-functioner and the under-functioner as a complementary pair, right? I just said this to my husband today.
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10:18Vanessa BennettHOST
I was like, we, we were in the middle of a fight, and I said, "We found each other," right? "For a reason." There is a reason why our systems came together, right? We are a complementary pair in our-- not only, like, in what we love and don't love, not only in, like, what we, you know, are good at and not good at, but we're a complementary pair in our wounding, right? We have a system, the two of us, right? We're not two separate people with separate problems.
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10:47Vanessa BennettHOST
[chuckles] We are a system comprised of a problem that is very complementary between these two individuals.
10 MINS LATER
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20:42Vanessa BennettHOST
You're gonna turn your awareness dial up on any and all resentment in your relationships, okay? And I always say, it doesn't have to be huge.
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20:48Vanessa BennettHOST
It can be the tiniest little whiff of it, but you're gonna pay attention, right? And then you're gonna ask yourself again, "Oh, I'm noticing it.
Episode 442 - Why Keeping Score Never Gets You What You Want
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15:01Amanda LouderHOST
Murray Bowen is the one who created family systems theory, and he called this reciprocity.
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15:06Amanda LouderHOST
And Harriet Lerner brought it to a general audience in her book, The Dance of Anger, in 1985.
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15:13Amanda LouderHOST
The over-functioner is almost always the one keeping the ledger.
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15:19Amanda LouderHOST
And the uncomfortable part of this pattern is this.
The Female Body Part We Were Never Taught About | Dr. Nina Deep
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11:06Nina DeepGUEST
Everything you can see is the vulva.
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11:07Nina DeepGUEST
So there is a, a psychologist, Harriet Lerner, and she has some great quotes.
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11:12Nina DeepGUEST
And she's written about this subject and others for years.
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11:14Nina DeepGUEST
So what she says is, um...
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20:11Nina DeepGUEST
I think every book that has to do with female sexual function you will find nuggets and pearls in it.
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20:16Keri CroftHOST
Yeah.
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20:16Nina DeepGUEST
She Comes First was written by Ian Kerner, and he is a psychologist who really had premature ejaculation, and then he just developed a method of oral sex, of giving oral sex so that his partner was pleasured so that he could then, you know-
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20:29Keri CroftHOST
Not be, yeah
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