Grace Communion International

I was one of the little kids.

As a matter of fact, my parents, my dad, before he passed on, uh, he was in the Worldwide Church of God-

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... together with my mother.

And, um, so we were little kids in the Worldwide Church of God, and then e- eventually there was a transition.

Then we went and joined Mr. Kambani Banda in the-

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And the cover is, uh, Is There a Real...

The cover of Is There a Real Spirit World, and that was put out by the Worldwide Church of God in 1989.

So now, like again, like even that time date just totally blows his shit out of the water, or it just doesn't make it look as old as it was supposed to be.

And it's a 25-pa- this 25-page WCG booklet, Worldwide Church of God, uh, c- [laughs] covers subjects like spiritism and channeling, not black magic.

Uh, and it kind of like goes over it like kind of like i- in a bad way, like covering it as like, you know, this is bad stuff.

So that is even like kind of in my opinion, uh, you know, Spinks, uh, kinda made that to sound a little bit different than it really is.

Back in 1993, 4 and 5, during that period of time, we saw the leadership of a church.

I was a pastor for 27 years in the Worldwide Church of God.

And actually prior to that, a trainee and then an elder, and then a church pastor.

And the challenge was, do you look to men or do you look to God? And brethren, we always need to look to God.

And when he hit age 30, we met in a large auditorium.

This was back in the Worldwide Church of God when we had a congregation of 480 people.

And when we would begin services, he would get up in a full suit and go out to the track next to the auditorium and run a mile.

Because in his mind, he said, I've turned 30.

But is that a baptism? And for all my life, I thought that I was good.

Then we come into an adult understanding and I leave the Catholic Church and I go to the Worldwide Church of God.

And I get baptized in a horse trough with, I don't know, 15 other people.

And that was in somebody's basement.

I'm physically doing that to represent what Paul just said.

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you're right coming up a new man a new person so what what is it that we're doing so if we go to um you know we're talking you and i are now talking about the heart but before that we're talking about i got baptized as a child and then i got baptized in worldwide church again and i you know the child one was forever And the worldwide Church of God one was a renewed one forever.

And many of us get baptized in whatever denomination as if once and done forever.

Well, yeah, but I didn't...

So, okay, so I came through the Worldwide Church of God, and we call it the Eighth Day Feast.

And the Eighth Day Feast was actually just part of Sukkot.

So it was Sukkot and the Eighth Day.

We could talk about the fact that atonement means literally at-one-ment, just the way it's spelled.

I remember back when I first heard that in the Worldwide Church of God, I was, I'll say, a little presumptuous.

And I remember the minister saying, you know, atonement? Just look at it.

It means at-one-ment.

And Turkey, by the way, said it expects that Egypt is going to join the Mecca alliance.

So how does Egypt fit into all of this? It was the position of the old radio church of God that Egypt very well could have the final leader, who's the king of the south.

But it would take a very long time for this to take place.

the case i'm going to read a quote from a 1963 plain truth article by the late garner ted armstrong here's what he wrote daniel was given specific visions of events to occur In our time, notice the time of the end, absolutely dated the time of the end.