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He knows when somebody's probably losing money because they're not using the tech that they paid for.

Thomas Wasson is a FreightWaves Enterprise Trucking Analyst, host of Truck Tech and Loaded and Rolling, and most importantly, he's actually worked inside the trucking industry before getting paid to critique it, uh, unlike everybody else.

He just got back from Trimble Insight.

In 2026, that matters.

So, Andy, shout out to you as well as Will.

Just some fantastic stuff and excited for an even better FreightWaves Today today.

Yeah, we've got a great show today, too.

We have Gabe Ribeiro.

I started to look into it, and I think DJ, our economist, is going to do some research on what the potential outcomes of that could be and if it could drive any increased demand for automotives, increased productivity for some of those automotive manufacturers, and what that could potentially do to the freight market, if that could help it pick up at all from that regard, which will be interesting to watch.

We'll see.

But to your point earlier, as I was looking at the FreightWaves website this morning, how many articles are about fraud or theft because it is just so pervasive.

So we talked about the Ponzi scheme, $105 million.

So joining us to discuss that now is Will Bewley, again, co-founder and CEO of Wellflow.

Will, welcome to FreightWaves today.

It is so good to see you.

How's it going?

We didn't.

Yeah, we saw some spiky tender volumes.

This is the National Sonar Tender Volume Index, which measures total tenders from shipper to carrier.

And it did come out of the holiday higher, but that's not unusual.

In optimization, my co-founder, Ben Murphy, shout out to Ben, who passed away in 2019.

His father, Dr. Rick Murphy, worked at Schneider, built the optimizer, built the fuel optimization, route optimization, helped me start FreightWaves, understood rates probably in markets better than anybody that I still have met.

Unfortunately, it passed away in 2019, but this is sort of home to him in many ways.

We're talking about homecoming.

Green Bay has touched me, but Craig, when you were at Breakthrough, you were also investing in real estate startups.

You actually invested in FreightWaves.

Appreciate that.

In our earliest days, you believed in us in the earliest days, but you also invested in companies like Peloton that were early.

We'll see you there.

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We're gonna talk about Montgomery liability, what it means in a post-Montgomery and a post-Lupus superior world.

With us to discuss this, we have Drew Wilder, who's the founder and CEO of Vicarious Liability Risk Management, and Greg Reed, a partner at Hanson Bridgett.

Gentlemen, welcome to FreightWaves Today.

Thanks for having us.

So it's a never-ending conversation here.

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Uh, it is Tuesday, and, uh, we're rocking.

We got a full agenda today.

We have Andy Sharp.

He is the founder and CEO of Mesh6.

Andy, welcome to Freight Waves Today.

Hey, happy to be here, and, uh, really feel for what you're talking about on the plaintiffs' attorneys, and that's what we're trying to do with our verified insurance here at MeshVI.

So let's talk a little bit about what you guys do at MeshVI.

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Welcome to Freight Waves Today.

Julie, nice relaxing weekend.

It's football is continuing to happen.

Who knows? I mean, when AI is hacking systems and security, like it's a br- brave new world, we'll say.

Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers, who are gonna be up there on Thursday.

Freight Waves today will be live from Green Bay.

Uh, let's bring Ben Schiller in.

I'm sure it's going to break later, of course.

Definitely stick around for Freight Waves today.

I think there's going to be some breaking news that everybody's going to want to listen to in a good way.

Is that right? I am intrigued.