European Telecommunications Standards Institute

most? For the integration of quantum key distribution, we are looking mostly at the telecom standards.

So there's the ETSI in Europe, ITU in Asia, and those basically cover standards for interoperability mostly.

So how to integrate QKD into a telecom network, how to make sure that different, what we talked about, different QKD networks can interoperate between each other.

And these standards is exactly what we're using to build, for instance, this key management system.

And then beyond those integration interoperability standards, there's of course also the security certification, but that's a whole different type of standardization.

Can you provide an overview how you interact with the standard body settings? What is your relationship with the standard setting bodies and regulators? And how does this compare with competition?

So again, for these telecom standards like Etsy, ITU, what we do, we participate in certain working groups where these new standards are being discussed and are proposed and then are rolled out.

So we as a startup or scale-up, we cannot... afford to have one person who is really dedicated to this, but we have people from our team who are following and who are actively contributing to, for instance, the ETSI standards.

We appreciate that.

Today we have, uh, Jacob Sondergaard from Head Acoustics joining us, and we're gonna talk about a new standard, uh, from ETSI.

Maybe there's other organizations that are echoing it, but it's about, uh, how, how voices are measured, so specifically rather than using sine waves for either consumer or telecommunications, there's some standards of using real voice rather than sine waves to, uh, avoid some problems that are happening in the measurement process.

So, without delay, let's thank the ALTI Association for their sponsorship.

You guys wouldn't hear anything.

We wouldn't measure anything.

So how can we measure distortion? And I think that's, that's where this measurement technique, the reason, the motivation for that has been developed and it's known as nonlinear measurement, NLM, is sort of the nomenclature that's used in the standards community and, um, there's an ETSI standard around it Uh, open, f-free to download.

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Yeah, telecoms vendors, standards.

Etsy is the world leader in standards, whether China chooses to adopt it or not.

We'll see.

But then it's got so much mediocrity and so many areas that are just completely absent.

Yeah.

Those conversations with vendors would have been happening for three to four years before that.

And the Etsy standards, the beginning of the 5G conversation was happening in 2013, 2014.

It came too late for 5G and 6G unfortunately has come too late for Open RAN because all those companies have gone out of business.

The problem is that, on the one hand, these patent owners are entitled to not have their patent infringed, but on the other hand, we don't want them holding up technological advancement.

The solution devised by the European Telecommunications Standards Institute is that such patent owners must undertake to grant a license to implementers of the technical standards on terms that are fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory, or FRAND for short.

This allows implementers to develop new products while also ensuring that patent owners are fairly compensated.

In these proceedings, the implementer is the well-known car brand Tesla.

Yeah, so maybe to some background, so NetworkX has been running as a brand for four versions, fifth version coming up, but previously it was under 5G World and Broadband World Forum events.

So a good example of, I say, real world impact is the 5G World component, which came into NetworkX previously when it was 5G World and LTE World, worked with standard bodies like well, Etsy and 3GPP to go and help bring the industry together and develop those standards around 5G.

So I think that for the mobile community was a real world impact.

I think there's also probably other real world impacts, which is maybe not as specific as that one.

Do you have anyone in mind?

Yeah, there's a few, I think, who we consistently partnered with for NetworkX.

over a number of years, and they are Broadband Forum, WBA, Etsy, and the technical standards bodies.

I think they're involved in NetworkX, but actually their role in the industry is around pushing forward technical standards, solving, I'd say, real challenges that face telecoms operators and vendor communities.

Right.

And the governance moved from CEPT to ETSI, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute, in 1988.

ETSI is a formal standards body, but the GSM project had a consortium feel.

Manufacturers, operators and regulators all in the room.

The counterweight was the regulator.

We'll, we'll put them on our servers, but there's a second rule.

parallel web pki that exists in the world which is eitis quack certificates so i can go as a reminder for all our viewers and our listeners i can go to a trusted service provider a tsp which gives me EIDAS certificates that are blessed by Etsy, that are governed by the governing authority in one of 27 European nations.

And I can get a thing called a QUAC, a Qualified Web, what's the A stand for? Authentication Certificate.

And it is treated in the browsers like a TLS cert, even though it's a QUAC.

Right.

So, yeah.

I mean, one possible scenario is that Etsy follows in the MTC path.

Etsy is not as speedy traditionally