College of Policing

I think that the UK has, uh, a very encouraging looking system from the Canadian perspective, which, you know, it has itself a promising looking system that could be refined.

Uh, so in the UK, they have, um, bodies that are dedicated, like the College of Policing, to trying to foster, uh, more clear guidelines, uh, and specifications, um, a more coherent overall singular approach towards, uh, the use of these types of technologies.

They also have, you know, various commissioners, uh, William Webster, one of their newly named, I believe, CCTV and biometrics, uh, commissioner.

Didn't quite get his title right there.

It's not quite that way, but you're right about the American model, but, well, there's a couple of things there.

So just on the police, at the moment, we have these organizations technically called Quangos, quasi-governmental groups, like the College of Police, but actually each police force is localized and run by, we have Metropolitan Police in London, each city in each area has a different police.

And actually I've got a cousin who's a copper in Manchester and he doesn't like the woke stuff.

Actually, I think the police want a bit of leadership and I don't think many police are woke and come from that.

Um, obviously, there are things in the public domain around where policing has fallen short at, at individual level in its, in its use.

So we've very much taken the, the role through the College of Policing, who are our hosts, um, to develop the policy and guidance that enables policing as much as possible to get to a, a good, consistent, standardized approach.

And so we're reducing where possible that, um, that, that, that those missteps will happen.

Obviously, we cannot, uh, mitigate entirely the risk that, uh, well-meaning or, or not well-meaning officers and staff will misuse AI.

So no inclusion at all for any sort of right of center person.

And equity is a sort of... neo-Marxist idea about equality of outcome they put everyone in groups and they look to see how your group is done and if it doesn't meet every other group's achievement then the only explanation they allow is discrimination which is bunkum So yeah, the British police, I think if reform gets in, they're going to overhaul all of the police, get rid of the College of Policing, which is just a fiefdom that probably makes your average university sociology department look sane.

So the police have a lot to answer for in Britain.

And once you lose the trust of the middle class and the lower middle class, it's very hard to do proper policing i mean i i grew up in the most pro-police lower middle class family in toronto all through law school i always supported the police against professors and others who were sort of lefty but after covid and watching the police turn themselves into thugs i mean really i would not cross the street to help the police i i feel that they They behaved abysmally over COVID.

The conduct described would not be authorised and having a sexual relationship is not an undercover policing tactic.

This is covered in the College of Policing authorised professional practice.

The College of Policing, however, appeared to provide a different answer with a report saying this.

When approached by Novara Media, the College of Policing insisted its current guidance was clear that sex must not be used as an undercover policing tactic, nor should it be authorized as a means of gaining intelligence, and that contrary to Pierce's comments, the guidance does not provide a route to authorize such a relationship.

The guidance does, however, suggest that having sex while undercover could be justified if an officer perceives an immediate threat to themselves and or others if they were not to do so.

Now, Navarra approached Roger Pearce for a comment on his evidence at the inquiry, but he declined.

And the Met would neither confirm nor deny if undercover officers still operate within political groups.

The College of Policing told Navarra Media it's currently reviewing its guidance and, quote, will consider relevant developments, including recommendations arising from the ongoing undercover policing inquiry.

where I did vocational training with people.

I then kind of looked around and thought, what else could I do? Because I felt there was some more kind of interesting avenues to explore and found myself working at what is now the College of Policing, which was a big recruiter of occupational psychologists around 2006, 2007, that sort of year and went in and worked there and that team specialised in recruitment of police officers and police specialist roles and it was all about psychological assessment at work and that's how I got into that area and then that has become kind of the pathway for me working in recruitment decision making, doing assessment design, all of that good work.

I like variety so I have moved around quite a bit So I went and worked abroad after working at College of Policing for a few years and went into consultancy, working with multinational organisations.

Again, psychological assessment at work.

So I did a stint in Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia and Singapore as well.

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bit more.

And then we've got designated occupational psychology posts in the Cabinet Office, in Ministry of Defence, College of Policing, a big employer where Jo was.

What that tells us is that the police don't really understand the law that they're applying.

And how could they? uh if you look at the statute books and if you look at the various hate speech laws that we have none of them are clear they're all nebulous they're all vague uh they use phrases like grossly offensive causing needless anxiety causing psychological harm etc so there is that these things cannot be quantified cannot be fully understood and as a result we also have an activist body called the college of policing which is the quango in charge of training police in england and wales and that has for a long time been ideologically captured so you effectively have activists, woke activists, embedded in the law enforcement system of the UK, training the police to believe that it is their job to monitor people's thoughts and speech.

So that's why you get these incredible stories of overreach, such as Lee Joseph Dunn, the man who reposted three memes online, none of which were particularly offensive, in my view.

and had eight weeks in prison as a result of that.

The growth in this technology and the speed of the growth has been quite remarkable.

I chair the College of Policing, which is the national body that's responsible for training, standards, leadership in the police.

And one of the issues is, of course, that AI can be a very useful tool for the police in tackling crime, something we definitely do want to deploy with all the right safeguards.

And we put a lot of those safeguards around it for very good reason.

ourselves here, you know? Well, I mean, and it's even worse than people think.

After the Henry Novak murder, there was a lot of scrutiny of the official police guidelines and the, for instance, there is a police guideline which was published about two years ago by the College of Policing and the National Police Chiefs Council in which it explicitly states that as a police officer, you must not treat people the same according to skin color, that you must promote racial equity, not racial equality.

And it's very specific about that.

So what that is...

But I think they know that this is what they have to do.

Then there's a culture, there are activists within the police force.

The real problem is you have the College of Policing training the police and they are an activist body.

They're not an impartial body at all.