CloudKitchens

Travis Kalanick is the co-founder of Uber.

I was able to not only sit down with Travis, but he actually interviewed me in front of his all-hands team for CloudKitchens.

Cali Barbecue opened up multiple CloudKitchens during the pandemic.

We went all in on ghost kitchens.

I told the sales rep at CloudKitchens that I would eventually one day have Travis Kalanick on our show.

I would meet him.

I would sit down with him.

That's Adams, A-T-O-M-S.

We reported on Adams quite a bit this year because Travis sort of relaunched this company that was previously Cloud Kitchens.

They bought a robotic or an autonomous mining company and they claim to be the AI for the physical world.

Sounds familiar.

I think this is more, this is another example of how we're seeing a sort of real slowly increased competition between DoorDash and Uber in a sense of not only is DoorDash trying to do a lot of the same things that Uber is doing with sort of like autonomous vehicle partners, and this distributed bets model that you just mentioned.

But Wunder is doing basically what Travis Kalanick has been doing with Cloud Kitchens.

It's the same idea of, can we automate the process from food order to food creation to food delivery.

And Kalanick's new thing, Adams, is being backed by Uber.

Mm-hmm.

Right? And then he sold it for billions of dollars, and now he does CloudKitchens.

Nice.

And so his next big bet is real estate and CloudKitchens, basically, and he's got, like, over 500 CloudKitchens a- across the United States right now.

I am so ignorant.

What is a cloud kitchen?

Yeah.

Imagine just doing food delivery at, like, a fraction of the cost out of a building with the same food.

I think this is really interesting because I was listening to Travis Kalanick, the, the former CEO of Uber.

He now has a cloud kitchen, um, Atom.

Did you hear about, about what he's doing?

Yes.

I think he mentioned the, one of the biggest, uh, supplier for restaurant, the, the, the, I think the forklift, if you have the food, I think this is the for a year costs $5 billion or something like this range.

And it was really surprising that there's a bit of interest now, like DoorDash even is entering robotics and, and food, uh, delivery.

Um, Travis also with Atom and Cloud Kitchen, he's into it.

So it's really interesting.

And so when I decided to start Pulsia Inc. after that previous company, I was like, okay, I'm not going to make the mistake again.

Because between my experience with Travis at Cloud Kitchens and that startup with my co-founder, I hadn't taken a break.

And halfway through, I was like, I'm already exhausted.

There's all this conflict in the company.

well your car dealership so you'll probably know and then you want to sell to other people you tell me how they want to communicate in one which channels what tone they like what they don't like yes you can trust the act to try but like you'll see very quickly it doesn't work it doesn't work it doesn't work than ask the AI to pivot or try to pivot into new ideas.

You

mentioned Travis Kalanick, and if I'm not mistaken, he once refused to give you a salesperson at Cloud Kitchens and told you to close 10 customers yourself first.

And you did it in a week.