charity: water

And that's the bottom line is because it's going forward, there's systems, there's rules in place that keep it aligned and functional, for lack of better words.

So in my opinion, this just full circle, that's just the primer for talking about the golden ratio, just which is just my reflection and opinion about that, which has to do with like, you know talking yesterday about making sculptures for artistic purposes around the world and basically continuing to try to make a like a business out of that like having even like an academy or like a school to teach other people to make sculptures and then somebody in a neighborhood and every single country in the world and every city in the world holds on to a vertical farm that corresponds to like free food but it's like an art combination with free food dynamic this is i guess that's still the this is still the the precursor anyways the bottom line is that basically that the golden ratio in this little episode corresponds to in all of the closed circuit systems really really like charity water for example charity water is an example uh trying to take the least and using the system to try to optimize itself by giving all of itself back to itself like And that's the purpose of it, like fundamentally, foundationally, like that's not what businesses typically are made for, especially in places where there's a lot of money.

People really want to take money and use it for other things, but it's kind of like counterintuitive to the purpose of a business at all.

To just have things, to have stuff, to have materials takes away from the purpose of a business.

You take the gas out of the car, and then you keep driving, keep driving.

It's just kind of that plain and simple, and that corresponds to philanthropy, philanthropy energy.

The business yesterday talking about making artistic art pieces to travel around the world and have everybody, like, in every town in the world be... hosting vertical gardens vertical farms and us also making an academy where we're training people to just facilitate vertical farms around the world because it's advantageous and the bottom line is to like charity water the business charity water is trying to dig up water around the world for everyone to have water around the world but they put everything back into the business And that's the nature of how businesses should be in terms of the golden ratio.

Because in terms of happiness, the sacrifice on the front end to get back end wealth and materialism is still there.

Before we talk about everything, talk a little bit about your career.

Last time we talked was about four years ago when you were with Charity Water.

What was it about Airbnb.org that...

That was a calling for you.

And you're right.

It's been quite a transition.

I spent 11 years at Charity Water.

And it's just an amazing organization.

Coincidentally, also have, you know, decades of history and really building recurring giving programs.

But, and this is the thing I want our listeners to be super encouraged by Steve, the people that I'm highlighting now, the Charity Waters, the Operation Smiles, the Easter Seals, we just had Kendra Davenport from Easter Seals on.

Those organizations made their big moves into recurring giving in the last 10 years or less.

I would say seven to 10 years.