Bitrefill

Okay, got it.

You can also buy prepaid cards with BitRefill, which is another...

Yeah, BitRefill.

Also, Freedomia is a great non-KYC.

It's a Visa card.

Mm-hmm.

And he told me that he's very happy with Bitrefill, and that's the service which he uses when he wants to spend his Bitcoin, and I told him, "You know, um, I'm actually scheduled to talk to John next week, and, uh, I'm going to let him know about it." And I, I'm glad that I remembered to do it.

Ah, I'm happy to hear people using it.

I mean, I've used gift cards and Bitcoin since years now too, and then I remember, um, I'm a big Dota 2 fan, um, on and off.

I haven't really been playing lately, but in Dota 2, you know, uh, buying skins and stuff like this and different, uh, cosmetic thing aspects or music and icons or whatever for the game just to have it be more fun, uh, you know, I was using, I was buying Steam credit with Bitcoin for years and, uh, then Steam stopped accepting Bitcoin.

My, my theory is because BitPay fucked it up, not Bitcoin.

But, uh, and then I was like, "Oh, shit, where am I gonna buy Steam with Bitcoin now?" And that, that's how I've heard of Bitrefill, and they had only just started ex- uh, offering gift cards in, like, I think it was June last year.

Um, and so I was able to get Steam through them, and that, that gave me my first exposure to them because before that, they were only doing, like, mobile, mobile top-ups, mobile recharge refill things.