Bielefeld University

A-and you're gonna have to put the effort in, right? You are gonna have to put the effort in, and that's not just about your agency.

So I was very honored to give the Coselle Collection, Bielefeld University this year, and actually talked about, uh, not just individual relationships each of us has with AI, but actually the beginnings of what we could see to be cyber susceptibility and even cyber history wars and cyber-

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... uh, cyber warfare around histories.

The whole point of ethics is it's hard work, and you're going to have to put the effort in, right? You are going to have to put the effort in, and that's not just about your agency.

So I was very honoured to give the Kozelek Lecture in Bielefeld University this year and actually talked about not just individual relationships each of us has with AI, but actually the beginnings of what we could see to be cyber susceptibility and even cyber history wars and cyber warfare around histories.

So the more data that you've got about what people are interested in in history, the more you've got some leverage to produce really good histories because you've got market data and you can say, for instance, everybody loves World War II, let's write another book about World War II and we'll get a bestseller.

You can do it that way or you can be really malicious about that and you don't need to intend to do that.

That was Juan Marcelo.

He is an expert on burrowing parrots and a biologist and researcher at the University of Bielefeld in Germany and the University of Venda in South Africa.

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