Austar

I mean, as an in-house lawyer, that was sort of where I started.

And I had an incredible, you know, nearly 10 years at Telstra and then 10 years at Austar.

But I was, I was general counsel, but then I actually, in both areas, I broadened out it, particularly at Austar, broadened out to a much broader commercial role as well.

So the lawyers worked for me, but I also worked had corporate strategy and investor relations, corporate affairs, and sort of the whole content side of the business.

And it was really much more of a business role, if you like.

And it became very clear to me very quickly that we had the team who could, we could turn the business around.

We knew where we needed to go.

And I mean, what was part of the reason that I actually jumped ship to join, because it was, I knew Austart was having some challenging times.