Alchip

So while we are doing this, we do co-simulation with them, with the hyperscalers.

So we don't really need to work with Marvell or Broadcom, or in some cases, GUC or Alchip or MediaTek, because there's multiple custom XPU providers in the world out there.

So I think that, so we do that.

They look at the feature set of our chip, the latency of our chip, the overall performance throughput of our chip.

Um, right, because we've, we've talked about this before.

For years this has just been the only thing people wanted to ask about Marvell was, "How much share are they losing at, at Amazon?" Right? That was the entire conversation, Alchip versus Marvell.

And now it's, you know, they have, uh, uh, they, they have a much wider breadth of customers and a much wider breadth of products, and they talked about a lot of those.

And we can, you know, we can quibble with any particular point on the, you know, some of these products are better than others and whatever.

Um, but it was a, it was, you know, it was, it was good to talk about something other than Amazon and Alchip.

There's a lot, there's a lot, lot going on there, and there was, you know, they, they...

We, we don't have to talk about the same topics now.