African Energy Chamber

Africa is energy.

Oh, no, you're talking about African Energy Chamber, aren't you?

Yes, sir.

KG, be careful.

We've got no jobs." And we have a report, actually, it's called Pipe Dreams, How Oil and Gas Fails to Deliver Economic Development in Africa.

And you can really see oil and gas is not helping the continent, and it's time to start investing on renewable energy.

The head of the African Energy Chamber, NJ Ayuk.

Mm.

I love my discussions with N.J. Anouk.

He is the African Energy Chamber chairman, and he is a great man.

He says, I don't want your subsidies.

I want more help in putting in power plants that will help us manufacture things that we can trade with you.

And then we also have the N.J.

I mean, not just a N.J. And we've got the N.J. You are the executive chairman at the African Energy Chamber.

And this is one we've been back a few times.

I love our conversations.

It's going to go into Venezuela.

It's going to go into Texas.

So my job as the chairman of the African Energy Chamber is to fight every goddamn day to make Africa the best place in the world to invest.

I want to beat Texas, man.

Sorry, Stu, go ahead.

I know this is one of the questions I'm going to be asking NJ Anouk, the chairman of the Africa Energy Chamber I'm interviewing later on.

And so this is a huge issue because when you have the International Monetary Fund tying finances to green energy that don't work when the Africans need to be putting in energy that they can make from their own natural resources, make product and be a better trading partner.

That's how you get.

yeah.

You also quote the chair of a fossil fuel lobby group, African Energy Chamber.

They use the words, bill, drill, baby, drill, of course, words that we know from Donald Trump, that we now have a president in the White House that's openly supporting investments in fossil fuel again.

Do you think that's also a reason that Namibia is once again turning to these fossil fuels?